Evolving cock needs…how about others

[Desiplayer]

Evolving bi/gay needs ….since being converted bi few years back by wife ….through years I had the pleasure of being with some average hunks to some fine sexy hunks and to extream level of sexyness, being well built and the hunk that keeps coming in your head non stop. Past couple of year my hunks I crave are muscular, not overly built …smooth …no hairyness…that well confident handsome sexy looks , followed by average or above average thick cocks, sexy ass…all of these needs in my bi hook ups have evolved .

Those who are bi and gay …how has your cock needs evolved throughout the year?

Lot has to do with where wife shared similar needs as well.

[ucaneffher]

since being converted bi few years back by wife

Question for you Desiplayer, do you honestly believe that she "converted" you instead of you already having dormant existing desires?

I have a theory that most people who are bi curious, bi, or gay have always been that without accepting or embracing it. In your case, you don't think that it's something that you wanted and just used the cuckold lifestyle as a way to deflect an existing desire and instead blame it on the wife "converting" you?

This is not meant to be an attack by any means. It's just that over the last couple of years, I've been noticing an increase in bi/gay related stuff in the cuckold forum (I've been in OHW since 2007 and the old one since 04) and feel that some of the men who become cucks already had curiosity for the same sex but disguise it or mask it with the pretext of making the wife happy. There's nothing wrong with being bi/gay, being a cuck, or both.

Everyone should embrace, enjoy, and live how they want to live. Hell if I had an option, I'd sign a lifetime agreement/contract to surrender my woman and settle for watching her cuck me hard with another man permanently. It's something that most people would disagree with but I would dearly embrace her completely replacing me while giving me just enough rights/benefits to make it worthy of me staying around/together while in reality she belongs more to another man than she actually does to me.

I feel that as long as I get the right amount of intimacy, friendship/connection, and inclusion to her sex life with another man so that I can masturbate along whether it's watching her, hearing her, or hearing the details, I'd be more than happy to settle for that life. She'd have another man as her main partner to take care of all her sexual needs and emotional needs, she'd have me for emotional partner, best friend, and support her relationship with him. I would have her as my female best friend and partner in crime, he would be my male best friend who I'm happy and proud to see become my wife's permanent partner, and I'd live the cuckold dream of knowing that another man has replaced me and has sex full time with the love of my life. We'd all be a team and we all win and get something out of our arrangement.

Sorry to go on a long OT rant.. hope it's okay.

[Desiplayer]

since being converted bi few years back by wife

Question for you Desiplayer, do you honestly believe that she "converted" you instead of you already having dormant existing desires?

I have a theory that most people who are bi curious, bi, or gay have always been that without accepting or embracing it. In your case, you don't think that it's something that you wanted and just used the cuckold lifestyle as a way to deflect an existing desire and instead blame it on the wife "converting" you?

This is not meant to be an attack by any means. It's just that over the last couple of years, I've been noticing an increase in bi/gay related stuff in the cuckold forum (I've been in OHW since 2007 and the old one since 04) and feel that some of the men who become cucks already had curiosity for the same sex but disguise it or mask it with the pretext of making the wife happy. There's nothing wrong with being bi/gay, being a cuck, or both.

Everyone should embrace, enjoy, and live how they want to live. Hell if I had an option, I'd sign a lifetime agreement/contract to surrender my woman and settle for watching her cuck me hard with another man permanently. It's something that most people would disagree with but I would dearly embrace her completely replacing me while giving me just enough rights/benefits to make it worthy of me staying around/together while in reality she belongs more to another man than she actually does to me.

I feel that as long as I get the right amount of intimacy, friendship/connection, and inclusion to her sex life with another man so that I can masturbate along whether it's watching her, hearing her, or hearing the details, I'd be more than happy to settle for that life. She'd have another man as her main partner to take care of all her sexual needs and emotional needs, she'd have me for emotional partner, best friend, and support her relationship with him. I would have her as my female best friend and partner in crime, he would be my male best friend who I'm happy and proud to see become my wife's permanent partner, and I'd live the cuckold dream of knowing that another man has replaced me and has sex full time with the love of my life. We'd all be a team and we all win and get something out of our arrangement.

Sorry to go on a long OT rant.. hope it's okay.

Thanks for the comment, truly appreciated as this forum has helped my identity as well.

To your point I may have had bi/gay desires inside but it wasn’t unleashed since getting into this life style ….with wife wanting mm porn and getting me to wear thongs and after we opened up asking me to go for mm hookup and watching made me realize how much satisfying it is make love to men equally as women…..

Slowly I have become more addicted to cocks and now I admit have attraction for certain men…does that make me gay ….im ok with that as well…I don’t like labels …but I look at myself as bi/gay ….as my cock needs is not jus about sucking it’s about intimate passionate love mm , kissing and fucking …

Long story short …im happy wife helped me cross the line identify my needs …

[AZPainter]

ucaneffher, I whole heartedly agree with you that men who become bi/gay already have that desire buried deep inside their mind even though they might believe they are "converted" by a wife or girl friend through the cuckold life style. I admit I maybe a little different in that my first sexual activities were giving head to a buddy early on. I did it often for him and eventually a few others that friend knew and I enjoyed doing it. That said, I was also very attracted to girls and women. I dated a few before coming of age but I was in no way a "stud" or horn dog. I just liked how they looked, felt, smelled and all the normal attractions straight men have for ladies. I eventually married one and enjoyed it and not long after getting married found out she had been cucking me all along. We worked it out and stayed married for 11 more years and through many lovers she had over those years. I go to watch at times and enjoyed that very much as well as hearing all the details when I was unable to watch. What I really enjoyed along with watching was when a lover of hers would allow me to "clean " him up as well as cleaning her after they finished. Some I sucked off when she was not available. Those were rare.

Between relationships I would enjoy serving other men when I could. I was never into the bar scenes or any of that, but met men through the few I knew and surprisingly through a female who was just a platonic friend who knew I was at least bi. I did try dating women after divorcing my wife for reason other than sexual activities. Heck! I enjoyed that, but alcohol and drugs became involved with her and that brought everything to a stop and I left. I dated some nice ladies, and had a few longer term relationship of 2 to 4 years, but all these were more traditional types of monogamous relationships. Over this time I was getting tired of the dating game and trying to keep up with how it had changed over the years and in ways caused by "politically correct" influences. I want to say here for any ladies reading this, I am all for equality in everything. It is the attitude that many women seemed to adopt. I mean no offense to anyone on this subject.

Becoming more and more tired of the dating game as I mentioned, I was having more oral sex with other men I realized and enjoying it a lot! Since 2000-2001, I have exclusively been serving oral to men. I am 84 years young and still love doing it and probably will the rest of my life.

[Desiplayer]

ucaneffher, I whole heartedly agree with you that men who become bi/gay already have that desire buried deep inside their mind even though they might believe they are "converted" by a wife or girl friend through the cuckold life style. I admit I maybe a little different in that my first sexual activities were giving head to a buddy early on. I did it often for him and eventually a few others that friend knew and I enjoyed doing it. That said, I was also very attracted to girls and women. I dated a few before coming of age but I was in no way a "stud" or horn dog. I just liked how they looked, felt, smelled and all the normal attractions straight men have for ladies. I eventually married one and enjoyed it and not long after getting married found out she had been cucking me all along. We worked it out and stayed married for 11 more years and through many lovers she had over those years. I go to watch at times and enjoyed that very much as well as hearing all the details when I was unable to watch. What I really enjoyed along with watching was when a lover of hers would allow me to "clean " him up as well as cleaning her after they finished. Some I sucked off when she was not available. Those were rare.

Between relationships I would enjoy serving other men when I could. I was never into the bar scenes or any of that, but met men through the few I knew and surprisingly through a female who was just a platonic friend who knew I was at least bi. I did try dating women after divorcing my wife for reason other than sexual activities. Heck! I enjoyed that, but alcohol and drugs became involved with her and that brought everything to a stop and I left. I dated some nice ladies, and had a few longer term relationship of 2 to 4 years, but all these were more traditional types of monogamous relationships. Over this time I was getting tired of the dating game and trying to keep up with how it had changed over the years and in ways caused by "politically correct" influences. I want to say here for any ladies reading this, I am all for equality in everything. It is the attitude that many women seemed to adopt. I mean no offense to anyone on this subject.

Becoming more and more tired of the dating game as I mentioned, I was having more oral sex with other men I realized and enjoying it a lot! Since 2000-2001, I have exclusively been serving oral to men. I am 84 years young and still love doing it and probably will the rest of my life.

Thank you for sharing you experience and journey …can relate so many ways!!

I agree with with you, ppl may have had their bi/gay Desiires, sometimes it doesn’t come out based on society or marriage partners…for some ppl it could come out based on bi/gay media exposure, wife Desires or lack of sex from wife and moreover the cuck lifestyle can get you addicted as well. In my case looks like I’ve had this bi/gay desires, jus wife brought to light and now fully loving it

As more and more living a cuck life, I have accepted my new path and enjoying it. Wife wants it this was as well for being her selfish reasons for her …as much we i want to see her satisfied by various men.

Had few men had serious intimate relationships…it’s was more of gay love between us….we didn’t openly say it but our connections and love making dictated that ….there are few guys i have active relationship that’s beyond our sex …it maybe gay relationships…i these relationships helped me discover who I was and accept my identity crises as well. Don’t mind being mm relationship….feel more relived

[Bsod83]

I crave cock, but i dont need cock. I have had conflicting feelings regarding mm-sex for nearly 30 years, accepted thr bi label really late. I know it have been there always, just below the surface.

What really turn me off is a shitty personality. Does not matter how a person looks if the heart is not in the right place. The outer shell is a little secondary. A hairless body, good hygiene and a cock that is not too small is good enough for me... ah, well a good ass can compensate for a small cock.

[xucked]

since being converted bi few years back by wife

Question for you Desiplayer, do you honestly believe that she "converted" you instead of you already having dormant existing desires?

I have a theory that most people who are bi curious, bi, or gay have always been that without accepting or embracing it. In your case, you don't think that it's something that you wanted and just used the cuckold lifestyle as a way to deflect an existing desire and instead blame it on the wife "converting" you?

This is not meant to be an attack by any means. It's just that over the last couple of years, I've been noticing an increase in bi/gay related stuff in the cuckold forum (I've been in OHW since 2007 and the old one since 04) and feel that some of the men who become cucks already had curiosity for the same sex but disguise it or mask it with the pretext of making the wife happy. There's nothing wrong with being bi/gay, being a cuck, or both.

Everyone should embrace, enjoy, and live how they want to live. Hell if I had an option, I'd sign a lifetime agreement/contract to surrender my woman and settle for watching her cuck me hard with another man permanently. It's something that most people would disagree with but I would dearly embrace her completely replacing me while giving me just enough rights/benefits to make it worthy of me staying around/together while in reality she belongs more to another man than she actually does to me.

I feel that as long as I get the right amount of intimacy, friendship/connection, and inclusion to her sex life with another man so that I can masturbate along whether it's watching her, hearing her, or hearing the details, I'd be more than happy to settle for that life. She'd have another man as her main partner to take care of all her sexual needs and emotional needs, she'd have me for emotional partner, best friend, and support her relationship with him. I would have her as my female best friend and partner in crime, he would be my male best friend who I'm happy and proud to see become my wife's permanent partner, and I'd live the cuckold dream of knowing that another man has replaced me and has sex full time with the love of my life. We'd all be a team and we all win and get something out of our arrangement.

Sorry to go on a long OT rant.. hope it's okay.

I hear you when you say the feeling may have always been there, just hidden or repressed and it was uncovered by the wife or by the situations

But for me, it genuinely does feel like conversion

I've never had a bi/gay thought or curiosity, could never imagine being with a man or even just a cock. If anything the thought completely turned me off. Nothing wrong with being bi or gay, it's just not for me at all!

My wife and I have shared cuckold fantasies for many many years, which morphed into sph and humiliation play and tease & denial to pussyfree

But she got into MFM porn & then MMF bi-play & then MM gay porn, it really gets her going

Our sex life, (but not domestic life) is female-led and we practice a lot of denial play/pussyfree dynamics (not permanently denied but up to her when we do & it's getting more rare)

Our sex life was generally me masturbating to her humiliating me, which I crave and she gets off to her now gay porn

She introduced it to me & while it turned me off, she had me cumming to it (I was turned on by her being so turned on)

Over time I was desensitised to it & then it even began to turn me on

She'd have me given a BJ to her dildo & even got me my own set & id have a vibrating butt plug in my ass & giving a BJ to a dildo while she was making me cum to gay porn or cocks

Over yet more time I began to seek it out in private away from her & disappeared down a rabbit hole where I wanted to try it for real

This has gone on for several years and it's a permanent feature of me cumming now - often in ladies panties, with a vibrating butt plug giving a BJ to a dildo while looking at gay porn or cocks or even men while being humiliated by my wife

It has got to the point where I can't maintain an erection during the rare times we have PiV, but erection returns

So, I don't believe everyone has some hidden or repressed bisexuality - I believe some people can be encouraged or coerced into it given certain circumstances of denial even including intermittent nudity denial, and the gentle encouragement of a loving wife, over a longer period of time & me who craves denial & humiliation

Was I always gay but in denial or repressed? I suppose it's possible, but I strongly don't believe I was. I was only attracted to opposite sex both sex or relationships, now, except for my wife, it's the opposite with pussy turning me off and cock & men turning me on. Although I love my wife more than anything